Who is Ben Houchen and how did he help the Tories topple the red wall? Sebastian Payne, Whitehall Editor at the Financial Times joins the podcast to discuss the Tees Valley mayor that Boris Johnson is reportedly "obsessed" with, as well as the wider themes in his new book Broken Heartlands.
You can read Sebastian Payne's profile of Ben Houchen from our latest issue here.
Listen to all episodes of the Prospect Interview here.
