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The best podcasts in July 2019—Against the Rules with Michael Lewis and Richard Herring

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Richard Herring, probably the best comedy interviewer going

Richard Herring, probably the best comedy interviewer going


Against the Rules with Michael Lewis, Pushkin Industries

The US journalist behind Moneyball and The Big Short has released a new podcast about the modern idea of fairness, sparked by Lewis’s observation that sports referees—arbiters of fairness—are some of the most detested people in sport. In fact, referees are some of the only people whom it’s widely deemed acceptable to hate. Lewis seeks to defend those who strive to be neutral and uphold fairness,…

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